Che impressione strana vedere il lato guida a destra!

Già anche a me sembra strano piuttosto trovo che avrebbero potuto metterlo anche sulla 120cv

Strano che critichino il cambio, il 6marce del tjet è lo stupendo M20/M32 dato alla Fiat dalla GM, probabilmente il miglior cambio mai montato su una Fiat (6m e marcia indietro in avanti di fianco alla prima).
Effettivamente è un po' legnoso nei primissimi km, ma poi va che è una bellezza, preciso e morbido.

Molto interessante la notizia riguardo all'assistenza Fiat, piazzatasi in un sondaggio fatto con i giudizi degli automobilisti al 31° posto frà 32 partecipanti. L'assistenza Honda, invece, è secondo posto in classifica e la Peugeot al 28°.
Sicuramente queste cose incidono molto sulla reputazione di una ditta e sulla considerazione più o meno benevola che può ottenere un prodotto.

Scusate l'ignoranza ma autoexpress è solo un sito oppure anche un giornale?
Comunque a me sta 308 non piace proprio...

Neanche a me piace, 306,307,308 mi sembrano tutti restyling. La civic meno che meno ,sembra un astronave, mi domando come farà a piacere una macchina del genere

Peugeot 308 vs rivals - Peugeot 308 vs Fiat Bravo vs Honda Civic
Promoting a classy new image has been key for Peugeot and Fiat with their new 308 and Bravo. But is this enough to hold off the challenge of the class-leading Honda Civic? September 2007





Photos: James Lipman

This year marks the 75th anniversary of the launch of the Peugeot 301. It was the French firm’s first mid-size car, and proved to be a big success, with 69,000 sold in four years.

But to appreciate exactly how much the market has grown since, it’s worth bearing in mind that in excess of three million 307s have found homes since 2001. That’s obviously why Peugeot has played it so safe with the 308 – with that many sales at stake, being bold was not an option. Instead, the firm claims to have lifted the quality and image of its family hatchback, making it more comfortable, refined and luxurious, with better trim and road manners, plus lots of standard equipment.

To find out how successful this approach will be, we’re pitching the 308 against another car trying to take a significant step up the class ladder, Fiat’s Bravo. Unlike Peugeot, the Italians were anxious to distance the latest hatchback from its predecessor, the dismal Stilo. The Bravo features styling that takes its cues from the successful Grande Punto supermini, plus plenty of new features under the skin, including the 1.4-litre turbo engine we test here.

Yet the Bravo isn’t nearly as radical as the Honda Civic. In one fell swoop the Japanese firm changed people’s perceptions of its dull and dowdy hatchbacks.

What’s more, its vision has stood it in good stead – the Civic has been our class leader for nearly two years. So has Peugeot or Fiat done enough to dethrone our champion?

1st Honda Civic
Built here in Britain, the Civic is the most futuristic of our test line-up
View Honda Civic

2nd Fiat Bravo
Stylish five-door marks the dawn of a new era for the Italian firm
View Fiat Bravo

3rd Peugeot 308
Latest evolution of the popular family hatch moves upmarket
View Peugeot 308

Fiat Bravo 1.4 T-JET 150 Dynamic
Stylish five-door marks the dawn of a new era for the Italian firm

da http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews ... bravo.html


Fiat’s Bravo represents a giant leap forward

Thanks to its potent engine, stiff body and sporting suspension settings, the Bravo is quite engaging to drive. The 1.4-litre turbo engine has plenty of torque, too, which makes the Fiat effective at overtaking.

Peugeot has taken a small step with the 308, but Fiat’s Bravo represents a giant leap forward. The five-door is leagues better than the Stilo it replaces – not least in the way it looks. The boxy lines of the old car have been replaced with more voluptuous bodywork. The window line slopes down heavily towards the nose, giving the Bravo a dynamic appearance that’s both sporty and sophisticated.

It’s not exactly cutting-edge, but the well integrated light clusters and Fiat’s new red badge enhance this upmarket look. The trouble is Fiat doesn’t seem to have worked as hard as Peugeot inside to maintain that standard.

The dash layout isn’t as attractive, and there’s an odd blend of plastics; for instance the chequered trim looks brittle, but is actually quite soft to the touch. The seats could also do with more underthigh support, and the centre storage bin is too small to be useful. But although the driving environment falls slightly behind either of its rivals, it’s still a pleasant place to spend time – and there wasn’t a single trace of a rattle or squeak at any time. The Fiat felt very well put together indeed.

The seats aren’t great, though. They’re low-set, unsupportive and firm, and there’s not much in the way of legroom. The Bravo is also comparatively small and dark in the back – although it’s worth noting that an optional SkyDome glass roof will be available soon – and is the most cheaply trimmed. This budget feel also applies to the boot. Our measurements made it fractionally smaller than the Peugeot’s, although Fiat claims a 308-beating 400-litre volume.

There are no grey areas when it comes to performance. The Italian car showed its French rival a clean pair of heels in every area. A 0-60mph time of 8.3 seconds was nearly three seconds faster, while the 9.5-second 50-70mph time in top was 4.7 seconds ahead. This pace is down to Fiat’s 1.4-litre T-JET motor. The first of a new family of turbocharged engines, it’s claimed to not only produce good power, flexibility and refinement, but also reduce fuel consumption by up to 20 per cent.

There’s a fair bit of turbo whistle and it’s not as well insulated as the Peugeot’s unit, but the delivery is so linear that it’s hard to believe there’s only a 1.4-litre engine working away under the bonnet. Although the six-speed gearbox is not as robust or sweet-shifting as the Honda’s – chiefly because it has a long throw – it’s still crisp and positive.

Overall the Bravo is good to drive. It has a tight turning circle, extra steering assistance courtesy of the City mode button, and generally comes across as agile and nippy. In the low gears the turbo has enough punch to overwhelm the tyres, but on the whole it all works very harmoniously.

The ride is neither crashy nor harsh, and although not as well damped or quiet as the Peugeot, it’s a capable cruiser. It’s also quite engaging when you’re in the mood to have fun. True, the steering is numb and gives little clue as to what the front wheels are up to, but otherwise it’s well behaved and composed, and has a more sporting demeanour than either rival.

It also offers far superior value for money. A price of £13,995 is excellent for a car with such an impressive engine, improved build quality, good looks and a kit list not far off matching the 308’s.


DETAILS
Price: £13,995

Model tested: Fiat Bravo 1.4 T-JET 150 Dynamic

Chart position: 2nd

WHY? On sale since the end of June, the Bravo promises to offer exceptional value for money.

AT A GLANCE: Full marks to Fiat – the Bravo is a step forward and shows that the firm hasn’t simply been channeling its energies into the 500. The 1.4 T-JET engine is brilliant and the Bravo is more charismatic than the Peugeot.

SCORES
Styling/image: **** 4/5
Interior/practicality: *** 3/5
Engine/performance: **** 4/5
Driving experience: **** 4/5
Ownership costs: **** 4/5
Green rating: **** 4/5

ECONOMY
The Bravo fared the worst of these three, averaging 31.7mpg, but that’s largely because we were unable to resist the turbo’s punchy performance. Drive gently, and we have little doubt it would prove more efficient.

RESIDUALS
Great lengths were taken by Fiat to distance the Bravo from the Stilo, and in terms of residuals it has paid off, with used values up around eight per cent on average. However, base models are the only ones to beat the 40 per cent mark.

SERVICING
Fiat owners rated its dealers 31st out of 32 in Driver Power 2007, but there are signs of a turnaround. We’d hope so too, given the prices we were quoted for the Bravo. A total of £770 for three check-ups is £200 more than both rivals.

TAX
It’s powerful, but as the Bravo’s engine is brand new, we had hoped it would fall into a lower tax bracket. Emissions of 167g/km place it two bands higher than the Peugeot, although its low price means it’s a slightly better financial option.

VERDICT
+ Bravo is quite engaging to drive and 1.4-litre turbo engine has plenty of torque, standard Blue & Me system allows external music files to be played through the stereo.

- The Fiat suffers from a high load sill and m least amount of space in the back. The narrow windows, thick C-pillars, solid metal roof and dark colours make the rear seats feel claustrophobic. Material quality isn’t as good as that found up front.

l'ho pensato subito anche io!! preferisco la nostra sai?

e dove lo volevi, a destra?

E' ovvio che le auto con lato guida a destra devono averlo per forza a sinistra però mi dà l'idea di essere tanto scomodo... poi sicuramente sarà solo una questione di abitudine e per chi ha sempre guidato seduto a destra è naturale averlo li